|Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn
with guest, Kate Mulgrew, August 16, 2000
Transcribed by Saffron - August 2000
Notes and Disclaimer: I transcribed this, but I
don't own the copyright. No infringement intended. Please do not post or distribute.
Craig: Welcome Back!
Throughout my next guest's 25-year acting career, she has had memorable roles on such show
as Ryan's Hope, Mrs. Columbo and Murphy Brown. This season, she enters her final year as
Captain Kathryn Janeway on Star Trek: Voyager. Ladies and Gentlemen - This is Kate
[Kate enters, Craig greets her and leads her to the chair. Kate waves to the audience
Kate: Thank you! [to audience]
Craig: Kate, before we get started and talk about
Star Trek: Voyager - the final season
Kate: We're talking about Star Trek? How unusual.
Craig: This is not your first time to San Petulina.
[applause & cheers] Some of the biggest celebrities vacation here and I believe you
are one of them.
Kate: I used to.
Craig: You used to.
Kate: It used to be a marvelous resort town, San Petulina,
until George Bush bought the biggest Villa and Dick Cheney took over the vineyards.
Craig: We should point out, Kate, you're very nice to drive 40 miles northwest
up here. We sent a car for ya because you have to jet -- you have to get back down to the
Kate: Well, am I driving or jetting? [laughs]
Craig: I like saying 'jetting', but I'm wrong.
Kate: I prefer 'jetting', yes.
Craig: Right. Although we're running behind, we may
helicopter you back to the convention -- The Democratic Convention you're going to down in
Kate: I'm very excited about it because I have
never been to a democratic convention before and I with to be educated. My husband is a
politician and, uh...
Craig: That's right. You've been married very
Kate: I've been married for a very, very long time.
[Laughter in audience] Thirteen months -- or 14 months. [applause] I have a story. Tonight
is sort of an interesting story. The Kennedy's played a curious and serendipitous role in
both my life and my husband's life. It's how we met. My husband, Tim Hagan, who is a
Craig: ...in Ohio, I believe.
Kate: Yes. He was the executive of Cuyahoga county
for 25 years. But he has worked with the Kennedy's both politically and personally for all
of those years. My mother's best friend is Jean Kennedy Smith. Seven years ago, I was in
Ireland with my two young sons from my first marriage, and my mother called and said,
"My dear friend, Tim Hagan, is coming over to visit the then ambassador, Jean Kennedy
Smith, in Dublin. Why don't you have one drink in Dingle."
Craig: One drink in Dingle. [audience laughter]
That's what Mom said, right.
Kate: I said, "Oh, Mom. Oy Vey." She's
sending me some big [mouths word] democratic [mouths word] ... Like that -- I fell in love
with that guy.
Craig: Seven years ago, you had a drink with him.
Kate: Just like that.
Craig: Maybe it was the water in Dingle.
Kate: Drink lasted a long time.
Craig: Might have been the fact you were in Dingle.
Kate: So, it's very important that we get there to the
convention floor tonight to honor the Kennedy's in every way.
Kate: Can I ask something of the audience?
Craig: Go right ahead.
Kate: May I make an observation of the audience?
They look young, very attractive, ambitions, very intelligent. How many of you will
actually get out and vote when the day comes?
[applause & cheers]
Kate: [nods in approval and applauds the audience] Excellent! Good for you! We
can't lose out political passion, don't you agree?
Craig: I think they're gonna vote for the MTV
awards or something.
Kate: I don't think so. They look like their Gore
supporters to me.
[light applause & cheers with a couple of BOOs]
Craig: I heard a couple of BOOs, I don't know. Can
we talk Star Trek?
Kate: Yes, of course we can.
Craig: That's what's important. It's the final
Kate: Captain Janeway's a democrat, you know that,
don't you? [laughter] Am I pushing this a little too much? Alright, forget it.
Craig: This is the final season. How do you want
your character to say good-bye.
Kate: I can tell you exactly.
Kate: Now, I may stand alone in this and I'm sure
it's going to be controversial: I think it's going to be poignant...
Craig: Is she in a voting booth?
[laughter & applause]
Kate: But she's in a voting booth with somebody
else... I think it should be stunning, unpredictable, heartbreaking. The audience should
gasp. It should be the last frame of the last episode -- an extreme close-up of a beloved
character and OUT!
Craig: Are we...
Kate: I can't. I'm not allowed to say.
Craig: Are we fading to black, or is she...
Kate: I think we'll see the ship going up in
flames, deck by deck.
Craig: Wow! You're gonna die.
Kate: [responds not really hearing Craig's comment]
I was told not to speak of this. As you can see, I'm the biggest blabbermouth in
Craig: She's gonna die and she just said it on the
Late Late Show!
[Applause & Cheers]
Kate: I did not say... !! You are going to get me
in so much trouble.
Craig: What? I didn't say that! Fade to black. You
said 'fade to black'.
Kate: Fade to black. I didn't say Janeway was gonna
Craig: I misinterpreted what you said. [audience
laughter] You are, by the way, you are the first female captain. [applause] Are you kind
of a role model of sorts?
Kate: And still standing. I've been told that I'm a
role model and I believe I have been - to young women in particular. Although there is a
young male demographic that find Janeway... [Males in audience yell 'Yeah!'] What can I
say? I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I think I have influenced young women particularly in the
science fields which is a powerful and marvelous privilege, I think, for somebody in my
position because an actress usually doesn't have that opportunity.
Craig: Yeah. I always wondered on those science
fiction shows -- do you guys know anything about space ships?
Kate: Ask me.
Kate: Ask me anything.
Craig: Ok. I can't even come up with a question.
What's a photon rocket?
Kate: A photon torpedo?
Kate: You're dead. Next?
Kate: Can you imagine how I felt the first season?
I had never watch Star Trek. I was completely unfamiliar with science fiction. It was a
genre that had escaped me altogether. I got this script. I am telling you, Craig, I said,
"Why don't they just send me the script in Japanese."
Craig: It's complicated.
Kate: The techonobabble was... My
whole body went to ice. And when the director said action, that first moment of the first
day, I said to him, <whispers> "I don't think I can do this." He said,
"You can do it." So I got up [Kate stands], and I walks out on to the bridge
[looks at Craig] Do you know what the bridge is?
Craig: You bet! Used to be on the Enterprise.
Kate: I don't know if any of you ever saw the first
episode, probably not, you all look so young.. and I greet Mr. Kim and I greet Commander
Tuvok and I say hello to my first officer. And I sat down in the chair [Kate sits down]
and I said "Aw, the hell with it. ENGAGE!"
Craig: There it is. You got the script and you say,
"If Shatner can do it, I can do it."
Craig: I love Bill. Bill's a friend of mine.
Kate: I love Bill Shatner. Wonderful, wonderful
Craig: Guy guy. Good people. Loves himself.
Kate: [smiles and nods agreeingly] He does.
Craig: That's why we get along so well. I know you
gotta run and you're either taking the Jitney back to LA or we're jetting you down...
Kate: He's fixated on how I'm gonna get to the
Have fun, there.
Kate: Thank you, Craig.
Craig: Remember to vote November 7th!
Kate: I will.
Craig: Kate Mulgrew!